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Your letters and e-mails
April 2001
 
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  In response to the query about the "Golden Cross" pub from Sharon Terry on the previous page:-

"I too can remember when the "Geese (have gone over the water)" was called the "Golden Cross". But I was very surprised to see that in the 1881 census, number 16 Southover Street was apparently called the "Golden Goose" and the the "Golden Cross".
It was then a beer shop (which meant it didn't have a full licence to sell spirits). There were three households living at the address.
An 1870 Brighton street directory shows a Charles Edmunds is a beer retailer at this number 16 (but the premises are not named). This would suggest it has probably been a pub since it was built.
Number 17, not number 16, in a later directory (1887) was a bakers. (Perhaps this bakers, or a later version of it is what Sharon can recall?).
But does anyone know when the name changed to "Cross"? And did the name-changers in the late 1980's know about the old Goose name or was this just a coincidence?
The "geese have gone over the water" is of course a reference to the Flight of the Earls from Ireland in 1607, when practically all the Gaelic Earls fled that country on a ship from Lough Swilly for mainland Europe. Hence the picture on the pub sign. Many of the Wild Geese and their descendants served in the French Armies over the years.
I remember the first landlady in the newly renamed pub telling me that she had told the brewery it was a quote from a poem by WB Yeats. But then to her consternation the brewery queried the name, saying that they couldn't find it in any of his poems. Panic! "Errr ... it's from one of his unpublished poems ...".
And they went away apparently satisfied with that!

Regards,
Graham Russel
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Local History from Down Under ...

"Greetings from an old Brightonian now living near Adelaide, South Australia.
I came across your website today via a link from The Queenspark Publishing Group of which I belong. I have been in Australia for 37 years but have been back to Brighton three times for short periods. I was fascinated with all the history and detail of the Hanover area. I lived for a short time in Carlyle Street prior to marriage and nursed at the Brighton General as well as being born there, so I was interested to hear that it is being demolished.
One church that you did not mention in the area is The Salvation Army Brighton Congress Hall which is situated near The Level where I was a member until coming to Aussie. I am aware that it has also been demolished and is being rebuilt on the same site. I also had friends who lived in one of the streets of Southover Hill and spent a few Christmases there. The father of my friend was a caretaker for some years at a school opposite his house but I cannot remember the name of the school and the gentleman is now over 90 years of age and living a few miles from Sydney Australia which is over a thousand kilometres from Adelaide.
I will be visiting the site again. Hope this has been of interest to you.

Olive Sant

PS I was very interested in the Newark Place census."


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